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Roberto Gozzoli, Mahidol University International College, Thailand Post by Norbert Preining Did it myself already. We will push that to tlcritical today and probably to tlnet also. Norbert------------------------------------------------------------------------JAIST, Japan Te X Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094------------------------------------------------------------------------ARTHUR It probably seems a terrible thing to say, but you know what Isometimes think would be useful in these situations? As I was trying to update the ISO file to themost recent updated file, there was no way for me for tlmgr to work.I knowthat tlmgr should at least update itself, as it happened in my Mac Te Xconfiguration or the Te XLive installed in my netbook. We use a proxy server, which createslots of problems for updating even some other programs.Best wishes Norbert------------------------------------------------------------------------Norbert Preining [email protected], Japan Te X Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094------------------------------------------------------------------------SLUBBERY (n.)The gooey drips of wax that dribble down the sides of a candle sobeloved by Italian restaurants with Chianti bottles instead ofwallpaper.--- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff tlmgr: using pinning file C:/texlive/2012/../texmf-local/tlpkg/pinning.txttlmgr: package repositories:main = = candidate for texlive.infra from main (27830)I am running multi repos (4 in total) since long ... 'but don't shout it out or they'll allwant one.'`THE Zaphod Beeblebrox? They were expecting somethingwonderful from Ford.`Stick it up your nose,' he said.`Which is precisely the sort of thing we need to know,'insisted the girl, `Do people want fire that can be fittednasally? The problem I see however is that the language in the documentation isgenerically too specialised. It is situationthat requires either gearing up for the conditions or getting driectionsfrom someone with local expertise, but we don't seem to have effective waysto help drivers recognize that failing to do one of the above may lead todisaster.'`No, just A Zaphod Bebblebrox, didn't you hear I come insix packs? It said you were dead...'`Yeah, that's right, I just haven't stopped moving yet.'--- Zaphod and the Guide's receptionist.--- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy I once had the very same issue Martin is describing here, also in my Windows box (Mac and Linux were working). '--- Ford "debating" what to do with fire with a marketing--- girl.--- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Hi Martin,can I asked you some test ... I have spent 20 years of life for using thecomputer as an efficient machine, I was not born with it, and my family didnot have one. The sort of information you need to configure wget will also be required byprograms other than tlmgr and even for other operation systems.I'm just glad you tried to read the documentation at all. In general, starting from the top-level web page,tug.org/texlive, and specifically the installer documentation, might be best. Finally, regarding wget, TL itself provides the binary for Windows.There is normally no reason you even need to be aware of this.Post by Karl Berry Hi Robert, I understand and sympathize with your remarks, but the thing is, I'vealready tried very hard to write the documentation as clearly as I can,trying to assume as little as possible.

La Te X can be intimidating by its own, but I feel thatsometime the documentation might be not as helpful as it should be. There is normally no reason you even need to be aware of this.

Thanks, Norbert------------------------------------------------------------------------Norbert Preining [email protected], Japan Te X Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094------------------------------------------------------------------------WRABNESS (n.)The feeling after having tried to dry oneself with a damp towel.--- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed... I am not simply complaining, I would like to give my contribution not forthe code, I refer to better experts that me, but for the documentation, if I can, in order to simplify the life to Humanists like me. If my help is needed, I would be very glad to contribute. I am studying ancient Egypt, so I am not a computer specialist. As I'm sure you can appreciate, I can't just magically rewrite everything to be less "specialized".

Name: tlmgr-win-selfupdate.patch Type: text/x-diff Size: 1178 bytes Desc: not available URL: Did it myself already. We will push that to tlcritical today and probably to tlnet also. Norbert------------------------------------------------------------------------Norbert Preining [email protected], Japan Te X Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094------------------------------------------------------------------------ARTHUR It probably seems a terrible thing to say, but you know what Isometimes think would be useful in these situations? Roberto Gozzoli, Mahidol University International College, Thailand Post by Norbert Preining Did it myself already. We will push that to tlcritical today and probably to tlnet also. Norbert------------------------------------------------------------------------JAIST, Japan Te X Live & Debian Developer DSA: 0x09C5B094 fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76 A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5 B094------------------------------------------------------------------------ARTHUR It probably seems a terrible thing to say, but you know what Isometimes think would be useful in these situations? I use thedocumentation however in order to understand whether it was possible toovercome the problem. Iam exquisitely aware that La Te X itself, let alone the installation, canbe intimidating, believe me.

Try opening a command line terminal and type in:sudo tlmgr update --self --alland see what happens. It seems to be "well known" (see here) that opensuse does not ship tlmgr in its distribution because it seems to be "incompatible" with the Ya ST RPM package manager... The tricky thing would be getting Ya ST to allow you to install other apps that have Te Xlive as a dependency if you don't install through there. But this only seems to affect the packages which include the binaries.

I'm SURE that I do not have the tlmgr executable... The La Te X packages themselves are not updated according to their versions on CTAN.

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