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I know "dating sim" and "love sim" have both been much more common in English up until now and deserve mention, but, from my experience playing these games and following Japanese otaku media, "romance sim" seems both to describe them better and to correspond better with "ren'ai simulation game." Usually not much of these games covers dating; what's simulated is mostly trying to win over characters (through one's own self-improvement efforts, everyday conversation, etc.), i.e., romance.- Eyeresist , 6 June 2006 (UTC) Ashibaka's argument is basically "it's not English and since 'dating sim' is an excellent equivalent we should be using that".

"Love sim" suggests a simulation of the experience of being in love, which, while it may be so for many players, many, on the other hand, don't take them as seriously as that suggests."Ren'ai simulation game," in Japanese usage, sounds more like a type of simulation game than a simulation of love, in part because it is often abbreviated in the context of galge to "simulation game"--"simulation"/"SLG," not "ren'ai simulation." "Aijou simulation game" would sound more like "love sim." This may seem extreme given precedent, but how about changing the headword to "Romance sim," redirecting from "Dating sim," and noting common English-language usage at the beginning of the article?

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A Dating Sim will also be a Ren'ai game if it's romance-oriented (most probably, all DSs are) and has an anime-like visual style (which most DSs are).A DS that uses, for example, an American-comicbook visual style would (that wouldn't be usual, but is perfectly possible) be still be a Dating Sim, but wouldn't be a Ren'ai game.You may take a look at the Ren'Ai archive for an example on how these games are normally categorized (they tag the games listed by type of gameplay, by kind of relationship, and by thematic genre).In other words, Ren'ai applies to any anime-style, romance-oriented game; but Dating Sims are specifically about simulating dating.Neither is a subgenre or subcategory of the other, due to a quite simple reason: Dating Sim is a mechanic-based classification: all DS's have many points in common in the kind of game-play and user-interaction they handle; while Ren'ai is a thematic and visual style classification: games that focus on romance and use anime-style sprites are considered to be Ren'ai, regardless of the game mechanics they involve.

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